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The Afterlife?
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BM
2003-12-12 03:59:53 UTC
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Any of you heard of the book FINDING DAYLIGHT - HOW TO CROSS OVER, or
possibly have read it? If not, it's at the url,
http://www.howtocrossover. I just happen to come across it and was
wondering if it was for real. What do you think?

BM
Trish
2003-12-15 22:29:54 UTC
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The best book Ive ever read about this subject is called... Witness From
Beyond. Amazing Amazing book. It may be out of print, but I got it out of my
library. I just did a search on google. its out there. amazing book.

Trisha

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Post by BM
Any of you heard of the book FINDING DAYLIGHT - HOW TO CROSS OVER, or
possibly have read it? If not, it's at the url,
http://www.howtocrossover. I just happen to come across it and was
wondering if it was for real. What do you think?
BM
naked ape
2003-12-15 22:41:43 UTC
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Would this be another one of those books written by a witness from beyond
who has never been there? Jim:)
Post by Trish
The best book Ive ever read about this subject is called... Witness From
Beyond. Amazing Amazing book. It may be out of print, but I got it out of my
library. I just did a search on google. its out there. amazing book.
Trisha
_______________________________________________________
Beautify your home or give a wonderful gift... www.designergiftshop.com
_______________________________________________________
Post by BM
Any of you heard of the book FINDING DAYLIGHT - HOW TO CROSS OVER, or
possibly have read it? If not, it's at the url,
http://www.howtocrossover. I just happen to come across it and was
wondering if it was for real. What do you think?
BM
Dennis
2003-12-16 01:26:41 UTC
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Yep...
Post by naked ape
Would this be another one of those books written by a witness from beyond
who has never been there? Jim:)
Post by Trish
The best book Ive ever read about this subject is called... Witness From
Beyond. Amazing Amazing book. It may be out of print, but I got it out
of
Post by naked ape
my
Post by Trish
library. I just did a search on google. its out there. amazing book.
Trisha
_______________________________________________________
Beautify your home or give a wonderful gift... www.designergiftshop.com
_______________________________________________________
Post by BM
Any of you heard of the book FINDING DAYLIGHT - HOW TO CROSS OVER, or
possibly have read it? If not, it's at the url,
http://www.howtocrossover. I just happen to come across it and was
wondering if it was for real. What do you think?
BM
Melanie
2003-12-16 02:14:11 UTC
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Hey, it makes money so it must be ethical.........
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Melanie
"There are only four questions of value in life....What is sacred, of what
is the spirit made, what is worth living for, and what is worth dying? The
answer to each is the same....only love."
Post by Dennis
Yep...
Post by naked ape
Would this be another one of those books written by a witness from beyond
who has never been there? Jim:)
Post by Trish
The best book Ive ever read about this subject is called... Witness From
Beyond. Amazing Amazing book. It may be out of print, but I got it out
of
Post by naked ape
my
Post by Trish
library. I just did a search on google. its out there. amazing book.
Trisha
_______________________________________________________
Beautify your home or give a wonderful gift...
www.designergiftshop.com
Post by Dennis
Post by naked ape
Post by Trish
_______________________________________________________
Post by BM
Any of you heard of the book FINDING DAYLIGHT - HOW TO CROSS OVER, or
possibly have read it? If not, it's at the url,
http://www.howtocrossover. I just happen to come across it and was
wondering if it was for real. What do you think?
BM
naked ape
2003-12-16 08:21:48 UTC
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Extreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemly ethical. Hope will empty any fools bank account.
..
Jim:)
Post by Melanie
Hey, it makes money so it must be ethical.........
--
Melanie
"There are only four questions of value in life....What is sacred, of what
is the spirit made, what is worth living for, and what is worth dying? The
answer to each is the same....only love."
Post by Dennis
Yep...
Post by naked ape
Would this be another one of those books written by a witness from
beyond
Post by Dennis
Post by naked ape
who has never been there? Jim:)
Post by Trish
The best book Ive ever read about this subject is called... Witness
From
Post by Dennis
Post by naked ape
Post by Trish
Beyond. Amazing Amazing book. It may be out of print, but I got it out
of
Post by naked ape
my
Post by Trish
library. I just did a search on google. its out there. amazing book.
Trisha
_______________________________________________________
Beautify your home or give a wonderful gift...
www.designergiftshop.com
Post by Dennis
Post by naked ape
Post by Trish
_______________________________________________________
Post by BM
Any of you heard of the book FINDING DAYLIGHT - HOW TO CROSS OVER,
or
Post by Dennis
Post by naked ape
Post by Trish
Post by BM
possibly have read it? If not, it's at the url,
http://www.howtocrossover. I just happen to come across it and was
wondering if it was for real. What do you think?
BM
ChaosGnosis
2005-04-24 03:59:49 UTC
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It is the total lack of hope that forces us to relinquish our hold on old
belief systems and stare into the beyond without a safety net. Then you
shall see what you will see!. And I bet my first sigil you won't find it
writtten in any of these little slices of lies we speak of here.
LaBlueGirl
2005-04-24 06:49:46 UTC
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Post by ChaosGnosis
It is the total lack of hope that forces us to relinquish our hold on old
belief systems and stare into the beyond without a safety net. Then you
shall see what you will see!. And I bet my first sigil you won't find it
writtten in any of these little slices of lies we speak of here.
How may you label it "lies" when truth is subjective? Even more, there
is not "truth" in what we are talking about here. Only beliefs. And
beliefs aren't truth.
At any rate, I agree with the first part.
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n***@tampabay.r.com
2005-05-07 11:39:52 UTC
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what makes you think there is no hope?
Sounds like you have listened
to a philosophy that puts people
into mental prisons.

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catherine yronwode
2005-05-24 13:59:03 UTC
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Post by ChaosGnosis
It is the total lack of hope that forces us to relinquish our hold on
old belief systems and stare into the beyond without a safety net. Then
you shall see what you will see!. And I bet my first sigil you won't
find it writtten in any of these little slices of lies we speak of
here.
What an adorable little cross-post to alt.dreams,
alt.lifestyle.all-faiths, alt.metaphysics.rebirthing,
alt.newage.angels, and alt.occult.methods. The forced "us" leading
inexorably to the forced "you" is delightfully trollish, yet it is
almost coherent and off-topic enough to have been written by a bot.
Perhaps it is a botulism.

Well, anyway, the botuloid who composed this teensy screed did mention
sigils -- an "occult method" -- which makes its postule marginally
relevant to alt.occult.methods, where i encountered it, and so i have
fixed the headers accordingly. Better to speak only to the small and
known than to cast comment upon the winds of randomity.

Sigils are an old-timey method used to contact spiritual entities who
were never human beings (in contradistinction to, say, spirits of the
human dead or spirits of humans unborn). The paradigm of sigil
magic(k) includes the presumption that some of these non- or
never-human spirits have fixed names and marks by which they are known
and prefer to be addressed, and by which these beings may even be
compelled to respond in ways favourable to the mage who knows their
aethyric addys and sig blocks.

Now, notice that the bot-thing who cobbled this message together spoke
of a "safety net" and of "little slices of lies."

It seems that the author approaches magical work (or dreams or
lifestyles, or metaphysics, or new age though -- consider the
cross-post line!) as a form of mental circus athleticism enwrapped in
fiction. The "safety net" evokes trapeze artistry, and the mention of
sigils in that particular contextual frame completes the circus
metaphor, with the spiritual entities arrayed in an unruly wild animal
act, called up and compelled by their sigils to perform tricks for his
or her audience.

The subject line ("The Afterlife?") is the name of this circus act, no
doubt -- but how does the author propose to segue from a lack of hope
through the Sigfried and Royness of compulsory sigil magic with
infernal or heavenly entities to the high wire of an afterlife without
a safety net? He doesn't -- and admits that the entire act is a sham,
one of many "little slices of lies" he tells in usenet everyday.

A very little slice, indeed, and, when squeezed, one which turns out
to be devoid of juice. It's sham lemonade, sold at a bot-circus, for
the amusement of bots.

cat yronwode

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